Things were getting awfully emo around BiW. After thinking and thinking and thinking about his work some more, I sent one last, pathetic IM to AM Radio, desperately trying to get an interview.
Amy Freelunch: Hey – give me five minutes of your time and I promise I’ll leave you alone forever
I parked Amy Freelunch under the sea and made her go to sleep. And I waited. And waited. It sort of seemed like forever (I turned and went back to doing work in my own studio) when, out of nowhere, the following popped up on my screen:
AM Radio: I have 5 minutes starting now!
Jesus Christ. Finally.
So the following is a little mini-, five minute interview with AM Radio. We barely scratch the surface, but I think you’ll agree that it was totally worth chasing the guy down. We will supposedly be talking again soon, specifically about his new installations (and maybe something he’s doing on BiW? maybe?!?) but we’ll have to wait and see for that. I kept all the line breaks because I love how it reads like poetry in places:
Amy Freelunch: Tell me about Frank Baum and the Victorians and their relationship to virtual worlds
AM Radio: wow
AM Radio: haha
AM Radio: this is a long answer
AM Radio: Well Second Lifers were presented with a world where suddenly people could make things, easily. Right? from shoes to farm equipment to jewelry.
AM Radio: and you could make identical copies
AM Radio: over and over and over
Amy Freelunch: and that’s similar to the Victorians and the birth of industrialization
AM Radio: right
AM Radio: however something else happened at the same time [for the Victorians]
AM Radio: something so exciting, so undervalued.
AM Radio: the photograph.
AM Radio: but not the photograph itself
AM Radio: [but] what it represented.
AM Radio: Previously when the news of say a President’s assassination was sent out, it took days, there were rumors and disbelief, and untruths about the events.
AM Radio: suddenly here was something, a virtual representation of the truth
AM Radio: that could be shared,
AM Radio: replicated and presented to everyone
AM Radio: as science
Amy Freelunch: that’s interesting too, because I think about someone like Muybridge in relation to your work
AM Radio: yes yes
Amy Freelunch: and of course, now you’re making me think of Walter Benjamin
AM Radio: but also
AM Radio: for example the photo of Lincoln’s death
AM Radio: has a profound affect, I believe on the preservation of the union at so critical a time.
Amy Freelunch: right
AM Radio: the sharing of information is virtualized
AM Radio: people now have a way to dissassociate their own experience
AM Radio: and experience it through someone else
AM Radio: at this moment
AM Radio: mankind is ready for virtual worlds
AM Radio: and all the technology
AM Radio: photographs, phonographs, radios
AM Radio: is all about creating alternate states for the viewer
AM Radio: art
AM Radio: even.
AM Radio: So the Victorians are the first there.
Can’t wait to talk more with AM.








