I’m writing in response to Amy Wilson’s excellent essay “Kitsch and SL, a first try” most of which I agree with but there’s one thing I want to argue with and that is the word “inherently”.

I think that it’s Kitchyness is an accident of history and it will change as time goes by. As Amy points out Linden Labs only enforces “community standards” based on people’s complaints and the complaints or lack of complaints depends on the crowd you hang with. I think that the constitution of who is there to hang with will change over time and so will the effective community standards. (not the official ones, mind you, but the effective ones.)

Basically I think as the total number of avatars rise SL will become less and less like disneyland (where its a safe bet that the majority is there is there for escapism and to not be troubled by anything) and more and more like Cleveland. I mean it will be like Cleveland in that, sure, there will be lots of tacky shopping malls, many of them will be filled with people who love Thomas Kinkade but there will also be “bad parts of town” and dive bars and little known music venues where obscure bands play music including one band that even the most jaded music critic in new york or london would like if only he or she were there to hear it and maybe one art school where offensiveness is considered a good thing, and some churches where mini-skirts are a scandal as well as many where they are not… you get the picture. (please note that i’ve never actually been to Cleveland, i’m just guessing.)

What is happening now in SL, I think, is a similar historical accident to that which is illustrated in this chart:

…as you can see in the early days of the internet as the number of people who knew how to make websites went up there was a HUGE spike in the percentage of all websites devoted to Chess and Star Trek. This was not a result of there being anything intrinsic to the medium of the web that encouraged the creation of websites about chess or Star Trek but rather a coincidence of interest within the subset of the world population that were likely to have heard of HTML as that knowledge filtered out from a hard core of a few thousand scientists to the few tens and hundreds of thousands of more average consumer-level techno-nerds. A large percentage of those people also liked Star Trek and played chess.

It is not shown on this graph but if you looked at a chart of the percentage of websites about Britney Spears or Pokemon or Usher the height of the spikes would never reach the very high peak that the Trek/Chess line makes because the internet is so big now and has been for 10 years that no one subject or subculture will ever dominate it.

Right now, I agree that SL is a Kitschy environment and saying that making art there is like making art within Disneyland is a really clever and accurate comparison. As SL becomes more and more mainstream, however, the percentage of people who want to use it as a way to escape will go down and the percentage of people that want to use it as a communication medium for all kinds of purposes will go up and with it the over all variety of attitudes. As that happens Linden Labs will change their marketing strategy to be less bullshit-utopian and their community standards will loosen and acknowledge different sub-communities with their own standards.

OR…. maybe more likely… Open Sim or something like it will take off and there will no longer be one company and one set of standards but thousands.

There’s already a nice little ecosystem of people and blogs ready to enjoy, critique and bring attention to non-kitschy art in SL and its only expanding, as it expands the degree to which it is true that the kitsch of the environment directly effects the work and its reception will lessen as other factors take precedence.

NOTE: Hollow Prim makes a good case for the tools of SL being intrinsically Kitsch-producing, or at least that its easier to make Kitsch toward the bottom of this earlier post on a related topic. Not sure about that part yet. Maybe the title of this post is wrong after all. This post is mainly about the community standards / corporate standards argument that Amy puts forward.

9 Responses to “SL (and any virtual world) is not an inherently Kitschy environment”

Thoughtful post Jay. On the surface Second Life does indeed only seem to offer the “tacky shopping malls” and vacuous thrills you mentioned, but if you’re not satisfied with all that and dig a bit deeper, the more diverse possibilities become apparent (just like in Cleveland).

I’ve been in SL since 2005 and I’ve noticed that there is much more of everything, more shops, more sex, more lag and much more art. A large percentage of the ‘art’ being produced is kitsch and those seeking escapism are making it, and apparently buying it.

One very positive development is the emergence of projects like BiW and other individuals, who are talking about the most important work and taking it seriously. If there are to be any real changes of benefit to art and artists then it will likely be directly as a result of this dialogue being allowed to flourish.

SL may well implode before we see the benefits unfortunately.

Heya – good post! I’m glad to hear your thoughts on this.

Thinking a little about the Cleveland scenario… I guess what we really don’t want is for SL to become provincial (which, sadly is what I think Cleveland probably is. I mean, Chicago sort of blew* when I was there a month ago and it’s way bigger than Cleveland, isn’t it? My understanding of the American midwest is abysmal though, so maybe not)… for it to become so cliquey and insider-y that you have SL artists talking (and making work about) things only devotees of SL get, so that the crowd that is into the work just gets smaller and smaller every year.

What I really think this all comes down to is this: The situation for the arts growing and doing really well in SL is dependent on as many people as possible getting involved in SL (kind of like your graph). More diversity, different experiences and ideas = better art and better art audiences.

I don’t see that happening for a number of reasons. However, I think that it’s not really our role to be boosters for SL or to try and do Linden Labs’ recruiting and marketing for them. Rather, if we’re going to think of ourselves as critics, we have to just take what is happening at this moment and talk about it seriously. In my opinion, SL is falling to bits… but that’s not my concern. I can’t predict the future, but I can talk about art being made today. So that’s what I’m really occupying myself with.

*sort of? try totally. and everyone I hung out with apologized for how lame it was. that was really disappointing… i had hoped to go and fall in love with the city. but hey, my parents are thinking of moving to cleveland, so i’ll keep you posted on that. of course, they really like baltimore, so i don’t really trust their opinion. my mother also claims that nyc is “going to hell ever since they widened houston street.” but now i’m way the fuck off topic so i’ll stop… :)

Insider notes on Chicago, New Orleans, and (less so) Cleveland in the next few days. Am from near Cleveburg, and live in NO & Chi.

To me, part of being “provincial” is making blanket statements about people and places you know little or nothing about.

Giddy in Wisconsin.

Oh- what i meant by saying Cleveland was not that it would be provincial, but that it would be varied and more or less like the rest of the world. That is to say, not like New York which, in my opinion is not really very much like the real world. That’s why I moved there. I enjoy the bizarely hyper-saturation of people that like art like I like. Pen, i’m in wisconsin too right now, appleton to be exact are you anywhere near? I’m visiting my girlfriend’s family here.

I think SL or something like it (maybe Open SIM) is going to become a really mass medium and there will be a large audience of people for SL art. I also think most of that audience will want pretty bland, tacky stuff, because– hey that’s the reality of the world we live in- most people do not want to think very much. BUT there will also be a thriving and well supported scene of thoughtful art too.

Jay totally has Midwest street cred. I, on the other hand, am a complete East Coast snob. I do realize that NYC is not the center of the universe… it’s why, in fact, I don’t live there and why I don’t really want to live there. But as far as art and culture go, it’s the best I’ve ever seen anywhere, period.

There are nice, decent, smart, talented people everywhere. I hope to be out of the NYC area within the next couple of years and to get to a place that moves at a slower pace, and hopefully I’ll be somewhere near those nice, decent, smart, talented people. But I also plan on coming back a couple of times a year to get my culture fix because there’s just no comparison.

RIght. I agree with the agglomeration idea in regards to art communities. I’ve seen this to be true with most metros. Again, as with another discussion, I liken it to fuzzy Venn diagrams.

New Orleans –
With the addition of Dan Cameron at the Contemporary (formerly of New Museum), I think that this has actually caused some problems, as his international stature causes a raising of the bar, but also a large disparity within the community that will have to adjust. It will likely raise the standards, though…

On the other hand the recession has hit NO really bad in regards to the arts. The indie newspaper, The Gambit, is restructuring, and there’s a huge fight about retention (or not) of the city’s last employed intellectual critic, Erik Bookhardt.

Socially, I think it has to do with gallery cliques. The Julia Street galleries are the “A”-list crowd, and this is there the money is concentrated. There are communities around the NOMA and CAC, the Garden District, the Quarter (which don’t really figure much as they’re primarily commercial) and the Marigny and Algiers galleries, which are bohemian, and guerrilla, respectively. I’ve been invited to Julia Street, but stay in Algiers, which I like to think is like being in old SoHo or on the Bowery.

Chicago is pretty clear cut – Bucktown has the Flatiron Building studios, a lot of hipsters, River North has the Yayoi Kusamas and huge names, Miracle Mile has “platinum decor”, West Loop has the young shakers, Pilsen is Latino and Avants, a little further south is a lot of Bohemian. An anomaly is Michelle Grabner’s “Suburban” out in my Oak Park burb…
Socially, biggest small town in the world. When you get into the art stream, everyone knows everyone. That’s that. You’ll know everyone in Chicago within 2 years.

I’ve been represented in Bucktown with a strong presence in Pilsen, but I have been thinking of shifting my Bucktown ties to the West Loop…

Beware, Chicago artists tend to remain “Chicago Artists”; I’ve found it to be pretty incestuous.So if you come to Chicago, make sure and keep a toe outside the city border. I also find they apologize for not being NYC artists, which I think is ridiculous.

Cleveland
That’s a weird bird – The upscale used to be centered around William Busta’s Gallery in the early 90’s in east side Murray Hill. Another great spot is the Spaces Gallery (indie, but as of now, all “under reconsideration”) Some creat galleries downtown, and of course, the Cleveland Clinic has a huge collection, and actually acquires. There’s also a new art corridor on East Euclid; the CAC and the Art Institute also do a good job. By and large, also a small town, not a lot of money, but a good spark there.

Although I’ve been talking about “scenes”, I think you can see how the clusters mix and overlap. Probably the same in SL, but more homogenous IRL, if only a little.

And in each town, yep – a few nice decent, smart people. And THEY, my friends are usually the ones who move the scene while everyone else poses and fights over crumbs.

Jay, I live 100 miles west of Appleton:) Yes, I agree with Jay and Amy about NYC, it has a vibe that is amazing. I have visited NYC alot in the last decade.Have friends there and some art connections. I get rejuiced in NYC.

I too hope that the art in SL keeps evolving, as well as SL.

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